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On a category archive page, in a filter called from a block outside a loop, I noticed that the get_post function with a null first parameter returns the first loop's post.

Is it supposed to return such a value ? I would have imagined that the global $post variable should have a value only in a loop or on a post page.

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  • Can you add your code snippet here please Commented Apr 15 at 11:51

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Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. The global $post variable is set quite early in the page load, at the wp hook. As you can see from the hook order, this is before the loop starts.

Basically the $post object exists independent from its actual content in the database, which you retrieve during the loop. It's specifically meant to be accessible all the time during page generation.

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  • What value is it supposed to have if it doesn't get its content from the database ? In my case it seems to still have a peek into the loop to retrieve its first item.
    – challet
    Commented Apr 15 at 13:52
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    It's a bit like Schrödinger's cat: it doesn't have a value until you open it. The loop is the normal way to open, but you can access it anywhere on the page. get_post will give you the first post of the query and get_posts all of them.
    – cjbj
    Commented Apr 16 at 8:47
  • So, it is related to the database content
    – challet
    Commented Apr 23 at 23:32
  • No, not really. If you approach a website, WordPress first looks at the url. This translates into a query (a post, page, category archive, and so on). That's where the global $post variable is created. Next there are filters that may change the query (for instance amount of posts on a specific category archive page). Only when all this is done the query is actually executed and content is derived from the database.
    – cjbj
    Commented Apr 24 at 9:31
  • I'm sorry, I'm confused. What do you mean not really ? And what value is it supposed to have other than null (or false, or anything that can be tested as not initialized) or a database record ? Of course a variable has no content before it exists. But my question is about that variable value in a block template but before the loop happens.
    – challet
    Commented Apr 24 at 21:38

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